Huawei Mate 30 can’t launch with official Google apps, says Google

[The_King]

 

Huawei may face a major roadblock for its next flagship phone, the Mate 30 — it won’t be able to launch with Google apps and services due to the White House banning US companies (like Google) from doing business with the Chinese telecommunications firm, according to a report from Reuters.

That means that the Mate 30 — and presumably, other upcoming devices like the now-delayed foldable Mate X — could be severely limited at launch. They’ll still run Android, which is at its core open-source software that’s freely available. But Google has confirmed to The Verge that the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro (rumored to launch on September 18th) won’t be able to ship with Google’s apps and services on board, which could put them at a severe disadvantage given how important Google’s apps are.

 

Huawei was granted a three-month extensionfrom the United States Commerce Department back in May to allow it to take action “necessary to provide service and support, including software updates or patches, to existing Huawei handsets that were available to the public on or before May 16, 2019.” A second 90-day extension was just granted to the company last week and is set to end on November 19th, but that only applies to previously released phones. The Mate 30 (and any other variants of it that Huawei plans to release) doesn’t fit that bill and therefore won’t be included under that exemption.

Google apps and services — including, crucially, the Google Play Store — are considered a key part of Android as an operating system, so much so that the European Union fined Google a record $5 billion last year for using Play Store access as leverage to force Android phone manufacturers to default to Google search on their hardware. The only real success story for Android without Google services is Amazon’s inexpensive Fire tablets, and those aren’t exactly in the same ballpark as the Mate 30, which is a flagship device meant to compete with devices like the Galaxy Note 10 Plus, Pixel 4, and OnePlus 7 Pro.

Chinese phone companies have had to work without the Play Store for years (since Google doesn’t offer services within the country), but its a much more chaotic marketplace, with hundreds of app stores all competing and different apps available depending on the store.

Huawei has been working on its own Play Store alternative since 2018 as a contingency for this exact sort of situation, but the US’s ban means that it’ll still have an uphill battle ahead, since companies like Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, or any other US-based company won’t be able to offer apps for that store, even if they wanted to.

 

[aaur4man]

funny leh i thought they were cleared already, now again

[ODACHEK]

Aptoide probably...

[Yamato]

 

It's official: the Huawei Mate 30 phones are launching on September 19
By David Nield 2 hours ago Mobile Phones

 

 

 

Mark your calendars.

 

We've already heard plenty of rumors and speculation around the Huawei Mate 30 Series phones, but here's something official: a launch date of Thursday September 19, with the unveiling happening at an event in Munich.

 

That's per the official Huawei Mobile Twitter account, so it's time to mark it on your calendars, book some time off work, or do whatever else you need to do in preparation.

 

The launch date tweet and accompanying preview site are encouraging us to "rethink possibilities" – so make of that what you will. There's also extensive use of what looks like a camera lens graphic, suggesting the Mate 30 phones will come packing some serious photo-taking capabilities.

 

We will of course be bringing you all the news as it happens from the Mate 30 Series event, and no doubt we're in line for plenty more leaks and rumors between then and now.

 

Some of the shine of the launch event is likely to be taken off by the news that the Mate 30 phones probably won't be able to use Google apps and services, thanks to the ongoing trade disputes between the US and China.

 

It's possible that Google will apply for an exemption for the Huawei Mate 30 handsets, but if not, Huawei is going to have to rely on its own HarmonyOS. We won't know exactly how this is going to play out until we see the phones themselves.

 

We're expecting both a Mate 30 and a Mate 30 Pro, at least. Previous leaked images point to a circular housing for the rear-facing camera, which could pack in as many as four individual lenses.

 

Other rumored improvements include faster wireless charging, but most attention is going to focus on exactly what software and apps the Huawei Mate 30 phones come running.

https://www.techradar.com/news/its-official-the-huawei-mate-30-phones-are-launching-on-september-19

[aaur4man]

Waiting for mate 30 price crash.....

[Yamato]

Gorgeous

 

 

[Yamato]

Huawei Mate 30 Pro Looks Gorgeous in New Renders — Four Cameras and All
By Jesus Diaz 3 hours ago Phones 

 

Strong features packed into a neat design

 

 

This is the new design of the Huawei Mate 30 Pro. On the front it is all screen except for a small notch. 

 

On the back, it looks like a compact camera, which makes sense given Huawei's photo expertise and because it is rumored to have “breakthrough” video features. Love them or hate them, Huawei is making some excellent iron lately.

 

At least according to master rumormonger Ice Universe, who usually is spot-on on his predictions. In a tweet, the galactic cat pointed out that he is “looking forward to a breakthrough in video shooting”. If this means that Huawei has implemented its best-of-class depth of field and low-lighting photographic abilities into the Mate 30 Pro’s video mode, users will be very happy.

 

But for now, we only know for sure how the phone will look, thanks to these exclusive renders by @onleaks for Indian tech site Pricebaba. The renders are in line with a recently leaked marketing poster made public by Ice Universe. I’m digging the back design. Instead of doing the ugly square pirate patch found in early renders of the iPhone 11 and the Pixel 4, Huawei has chosen to embrace a symmetric camera look that reminds me of the Canon Ixus compacts, but more elegant and ultra-thin. I like the sharply cut top and bottom ends too.

 

According to the rumors, the camera module will have two 40-megapixel sensors, plus an 8-megapixel telephoto lens and a Time-of-Flight sensor capable of capturing three-dimensional information of the scene to make depth of field effects.

 

The first 40MP sensor will allegedly have a lens with variable aperture from f/1.4 to f/1.6, with a RYYB pixel layout, same as the current king of the photographic hill, the P30 Pro. According to Sony — the sensor manufacturer — the RYYB layout collects 40% more light than standard RGGB sensors. A RYYB sensor uses can capture there times more light as a standard RGGB sensor, since the Y pixels are made of two red and green pixels each.

 

The second 40MP sensor is the same as the first, but with a 120-degree ultra-wide lens. The telephoto will offer a 5x zoom, according to the rumors posted by reliable leaker @Onleaks. On the front the rumor is that there will be three sensors, perhaps to enable facial id and selfie depth of field effects.

 

 

The display — which is a curved OLED similar to the one used in Samsung Galaxy phones — is estimated to be a whopping 6.6 inches, again according to @Onleaks. The entire package will be allegedly powered by the latest HiSilicon Kirin 990 chip, which has a built-in modem.

 

The phone will include a 4,500mAh battery with 25W wireless charging and fast 55W wired charging. It’s all pretty solid — except there is no headphone jack. The bottom has a USB Type-C pro, microphone, speaker, and the SIM card tray.

 

 

It is expected that the Mate 30 Pro will run an open source version of Android. Google confirmed that it has not licensed its apps for pre-installation in the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro following the U.S. Department of Commerce’s “Entity List” that bans American companies from doing business with the Chinese company. 

 

Mate 30 users will be able to download the apps on the internet like they do in China — where Google apps are not included in Huawei terminals — installing an app shop like Aptoide, Google Play, or directly from any APK repository, like APKmirror.com. It’s a nuisance, but an acceptable one.

 

We will know more about the Mate 30 line when it is announced on September 19 in Munich, Germany.

[XianGe]

Mate 100 the whole back surface will be camera

[Yamato]

Huawei Insider Confirms Putting Google Apps On Huawei Mate 30 Pro 'Is Easy'
David Phelan Senior Contributor Consumer Tech

 

 

Huawei’s next flagship, the Huawei Mate 30 Pro, looks gorgeous and is stuffed with advanced innovations and cutting-edge tech.

 

But, unless there’s a change in the political weather from President Trump, it will launch without a full-fat Google Android on board. This is not Huawei’s preference, but it has reluctantly said the phone will launch with AOSP, that’s the basic, open-source version of Android on it.

 

Which means there’s no Google Play Store, no Gmail, no Google Maps and so on, all of which require Google Mobile Services (GMS), and the current situation precludes Huawei launching with that.

 

There have been indications recently that loading GMS was far from impossible, though it could be fraught with difficulties and require a steady nerve.

 

 

Now, though, there is evidence that loading Google apps to the Huawei Mate 30 Pro is quick, simple and highly effective. And that evidence comes from an impeccable source: someone inside Huawei itself.

 

The insider, speaking confidentially to me, explained that the process took them a matter of minutes, after which they logged into Google Play Store, and were then able to download apps seamlessly in a conventional way.

 

There are tutorials on the internet, including a useful one from the reliably excellent Damien Wilde at 9to5Google.

 

That’s good, because this method includes using a site called lzplay.net which is all in Chinese. Wilde’s tutorial helpfully indicates how to progress through this. Wilde says it’s a five-minute operation, too. The 9to5Google explainer also warns that this process is done at the user’s own risk – a standard comment on this kind of story.

 

 

As you can see from the photograph above, the Huawei insider has been able to load Gmail, Google Maps, Play Store, YouTube, a folder of Google apps and more.

 

Moreover, I’m told that their Mate 30 Pro is completely stable and “working as you’d expect.” All apps, the source said, are “functioning brilliantly, the whole thing is easy.”

 

This doesn’t mean the process is completely without concerns, as explored by fellow Forbes contributor Zak Doffman here.

 

And it’s still, frankly, more complicated than many customers will want to get involved with. If other phones have all these items installed before they’re sold, many will choose those brands instead.

 

 

But they won’t get Huawei’s stellar design, brilliant battery life, outstanding cameras and more. The side-loading system, now it's proving to be simple, makes a big difference.  There are still sticking points. Netflix will not work to its fullest, but a simple way around that would be if Netflix puts its app in the Huawei App Gallery, its equivalent of the Google Play Store.

 

It's not a complete solution, then, but it certainly makes the phone much more enticing.

 

Although the best outcome for Huawei and customers alike would be the lifting of the trading ban between Huawei and the U.S. – something that still could happen – the fact that getting the Google apps people want onto the Mate 30 series of phones opens up a lot of exciting possibilities.

Edited September 24, 2019 by Yamato

[Yamato]

https://9to5google.com/2019/09/23/how-to-install-google-apps-on-mate-30-pro/

 

This is how easy it is to get Google apps on the Huawei Mate 30 Pro [Video]
Damien Wilde - Sep. 23rd 2019 1:00 am PT@iamdamienwilde

 

 
The Huawei Mate 30 Pro is in a place that no other flagship has been before, launching globally but with no ‘official’ access to the Google Play Store and Google Play Services right out of the box. This means that many of your favorite Google apps are not instantly accessible on the Mate 30 Pro without a workaround or sideloading.

 

Luckily it is ridiculously easy to get Google Play Services, and therefore, Google apps working on the Huawei Mate 30 Pro. I need to preface this by saying that you can ‘sideload’ many Google apps using sites like APKmirror but without the underlying libraries and necessary data, they will fail to load or encounter issues.

 

Installing the Google Play Services frameworks turns the Huawei Mate 30 Pro into what you’d consider a ‘normal’ Android smartphone. You can use every Google app as normal and all-in-all, the process takes less than 10 minutes and doesn’t need any real technical know-how — meaning it can be done by just about anyone.

 

While Huawei cannot tell you how to install Google apps on the Mate 30 Pro for legal reasons, it’s unclear if employees in carrier stores will be able to help potential buyers add the Google Service Assistant APK file to their devices and streamline the process even further.

 

I have personally been running Google Play Services since the Mate 30 launch with zero issues, everything works as expected with no major hiccups beyond the fact the phone comes without the ‘normal’ setup process we’re all used to.

 

It was initially believed that an unlocked bootloader would be needed to install custom ROMs with Google Play Services and apps included but the solution is far more simple than that. The Huawei AppGallery does have a substantial library but it won’t ever be able to compete with the Google Play Store in sheer size and scale.

 

 

 

 

1. Open the stock ‘Browser’ or alternatively sideload the Chrome APK (does not need Google Play Services to operate)

2. Head to the following web address: http://www.lzplay.net/

3. Hit the big blue button to download the Google Services Framework installer

4. Allow the Google Services Assistant installer to install all of the necessary files and frameworks.

5. Once the Google Play Store is installed, run the application.

6. At this point, you may encounter issues being able to sign in. Simply restart your device and re-launch.

7. Sign-in and install any Google apps (note: you do not need to install all Google apps should you not require them).

8. Follow the video guide above for step-by-step instructions.

 

 

All-in-all the entire process takes less than 10 minutes to complete — in fact, it took me less than five minutes from receiving the device to being able to launch the Google Play Store with no issues.

 

Signing-in to the Google Play Store also means that other Google apps like Gmail, Drive, Maps and the rest will automatically log you in on the Mate 30 Pro just as they would on a licensed Android phone.

 

Once the Google Services Framework is installed, the Mate 30 Pro runs just like any other Android phone. I haven’t encountered any major issues beyond some picture-in-picture annoyances with YouTube. Google Pay appears to work with no problems — although I will be testing this over the coming days — as do all of my banking apps.

 

If you have questions, then be sure to stick them down in the comments section below.

Edited September 24, 2019 by Yamato

[Yamato]

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/news/mobile-phone/huawei-mate-30-pro-on-sale-26-september-china-3702779/

 

Huawei Mate 30 Pro on sale tomorrow in China
The UK and Europe waits as China gets the best Huawei phone yet
By Henry Burrell | 8 hours ago

 

 

The Huawei Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro have just got an official release date after their launch in Munich last week. If you’re in China, you’ll be able to buy the phones from tomorrow, 26 September (via GSMArena). 

 

The big story for us with the Mate 30 phones is their lack of Google apps and services out of the box. Even though it’s not too hard to get Google apps on them (we did it) it’s not the best user experience. All other Android phones in the West have them fully installed, and for a phone that costs over 1,000 Euros, it’s seriously off putting.

 

No such problem in China, where Google simply doesn’t exist. Chinese retailers Vmall and JD have the phones up for pre-order already, so the official announcement is no surprise. After all, Huawei had to launch the phone somewhere.

 

We unboxed the Mate 30 Pro and it is a stunning phone. The quad cameras look to improve on the already stupendously good P30 Pro but it’ll be a tough sell for European buyers if it comes to our shores. Without easy access to Google services, we’d be cautious about spending this much money on a phone when you could buy a Samsung, Oppo, Sony or OnePlus phone with full Google integration.

Edited September 25, 2019 by Yamato

[XianGe]

Root chiur fone very risky if chiu use it for iBanking or online purchase... Better stay off AT fone... 

[Yamato]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/2019/09/30/huawei-has-already-sold-a-million-mate-30s-before-international-sales-begin/#624c84c372f8

Huawei Has Already Sold A Million Mate 30s Before International Sales Begin

 

SHANGHAI, CHINA - 2019/09/20: Close-up view of the back side of Huawei Mate 30 Pro, which features a ... [+]SOPA IMAGES/LIGHTROCKET VIA GETTY IMAGES

The U.S. government’s ban on Huawei from doing business with Google has placed the Chinese phone giant’s recent flagship phone the Mate 30 in uncertain territory. The phone series has officially been launched in Munich, and European pricing has been announced, but there’s no word on when the phones will actually go on sale, likely because Huawei would like to resolve the Google issue before its international rollout.

 

In China, however, it’s business as usual for Huawei–and good business at that. The Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro handsets went on sale this past Thursday and, according to Huawei, sold a million units in three hours.

 

Huawei’s a private company, so these figures can’t be verified, but photos of the crowd at Huawei’s new Shenzhen flagship store do show a packed house with long lines.

 

Long lines outside Huawei’s flagship store in Nanshan district of Shenzhen as fans are waiting to ... [+]WEIBO

 

Furthermore, stock on Taobao are currently out, and imported models of the Mate 30 are on sale in Hong Kong at a mark up of an extra HK$1,500–signs that demand surpasses supply.

 

Selling a million unit in under a week is impressive, but perhaps not surprising given Huawei’s popularity in its home country, which has only increased following the recent U.S. drama. Some Chinese citizens feel Huawei has been unfairly scrutinized by the Trump administration, and thus want to show their support out of a sense of patriotism. According to research firm Canalys, Huawei shipped 37.3 million phones in China in the second quarter of this year, up 31% over 2018. Huawei, in fact, was the only brand to increase sales over the previous year in China, as Apple, Xiaomi, Oppo and Vivo all suffered lower sales than their 2018 numbers.

 

I was able to secure a retail unit of the Mate 30 Pro on the first day they went on sale, and I’m currently in the midst of reviewing it. And while the verdict is still out on the open-sourced version of Android running on the phone, I can say that the hardware is yet again highly impressive and continues the hot streak of the P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, and P30 Pro.

 

Huawei’s new flagship store in Shenzhen.HUAWEI

 

The Mate 30 series features a dual 40-megapixel sensor, with one being a standard lens and the other a wide-angle camera. This is the largest megapixel count in a wide-angle camera yet, and so far photos have been impressive.

 

I’ll have a full review, as well as a camera comparison against other top phones in the coming weeks.

[aaur4man]

Jskm Huawei

[XianGe]

Bery patriotic

[Yamato]

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2019/10/03/huawei-introduces-mate-30-series-in-malaysia-priced-from-rm2799

 

Huawei introduces Mate 30 series in Malaysia, priced from RM2,799

 

Pre-orders for the Mate 30 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB storage will be available to eligible Malaysian consumers on Oct 3. — ANGELIN YEOH/The Star

 

Huawei has announced Malaysia as the first country after China where consumers can get their hands on the latest Mate 30 flagship phone series featuring Kirin 990 processors with rear triple- and quad- camera settings.

 

The company unveiled the Mate 30 Pro with 6.53in OLED display with FHD+ (2,400 x 1,176) resolution during the Huawei Malaysia Ecosystem Conference 2019 in Kuala Lumpur.

 

For now, the Mate 30 Pro will only be available for pre-order to Huawei Mate Series users who have owned two Huawei Mate Series devices through an Exclusive Ownership Campaign. A step-by-step tutorial for Huawei Mate series users to check their eligibility will be available on mate30proeoc.3ex.com.my starting 2pm today (Oct 3) until Oct 22, 2019.

 

Eligible Mate 30 Pro customers will be able to enjoy gifts worth RM1,155 which includes a wireless in-car SuperCharge charger worth RM289, a DJI Osmo Mobile 3 mobile gimbal worth RM499, a back casing worth RM68 and Huawei Care with extended one year warranty and six months screen crack warranty for users worth RM299.

 

The Mate 30 Pro sports an edge-to-edge Horizon display which curves at an 88° angle to give users more screen real estate. It also features a metallic ring design for its rear quad-camera setup which Huawei said replicates the design of a DSLR camera.

 

Its quad rear camera setup includes a a 40-megapixel Cine camera with ultra-wide angle lens, a 40-megapixel SuperSensing camera with wide-angle lens, an 8-megapixel camera with telephoto lens, and a 3D Depth Sensing camera.

 

The SuperSensing Cine camera is a dual main-camera system which allow users to record videos in super slow-motion at up to 7,680fps (frames per second) and ultra-wide angle low-light time-lapse video in 4K resolution as well as adding bokeh effects in real-time.

 

Huawei claims that its dual-camera system also produces better images in low-light conditions with ISO 409600 light sensitivity. For selfies, there is a 32-megapixel camera with 3D Depth Sensing camera that supports bokeh effects.

 

It is equipped with 8GB RAM and 256GB internal storage space, which can be further expanded to up to an additional 256GB with a nano microSD card. Other features include 4,000mAh battery capacity, in-screen fingerprint sensor and IP68 water- and dust-resistance rating.

 

The second model in the series is the Mate 30 with 6.62in display on OLED with FHD+ (2,340 x 1,080 resolution). It comes with 8GB RAM and 128GB internal storage space, with an option for users to expand to up to an additional 256GB via a nano MicroSD card.

 

Its rear triple-camera setup comprises a 40-megapixel SuperSensing camera, a 16-megapixel camera with ultra wide-angle lens and an 8-megapixel camera with telephoto lens.

The smartphone also comes with optical image stabilisation (OIS), along with laser focus, which are capable of 2.5cm macro photography, and a 24-megapixel selfie camera, as well as a 4,200mAh battery.

 

Both Mate 30 models run on EMUI 10 based on Android 10, support fast wired and wireless charging, while the Mate 30 Pro comes with upgraded reverse wireless charging for other compatible devices.

 

Both devices will be available in Space Silver and Black colour options. The Mate 30 Pro is priced at RM3,899 while the Mate 30 comes at RM2,799. Huawei will announce more information about the Mate 30 series availability later.

[stemcell]

On 9/1/2019 at 10:03 PM, aaur4man said:

Waiting for mate 30 price crash.....

tionglang already selling 700+

[Yamato]

Physically handling a Mate 30 Pro yesterday at a Huawei shop in Shanghai

 

 

[aaur4man]

15 minutes ago, Yamato said:

Physically handling a Mate 30 Pro yesterday at a Huawei shop in Shanghai

 

 

Will u buy?

[Yamato]

4 hours ago, aaur4man said:

Will u buy?

 

When launch in Singapore i will buy