The_King Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Ice cream giant Unilever has admitted to using powdered milk in Magnum ice creams in China while using real milk in products sent to other markets such as Europe, after a month of intense online speculation. Xinhua reported sales of Magnums in China have been surging by more than 20 per cent annually for the past few years making the country the ice cream’s biggest market in the world. Unilever has been under fire for the last month after internet users revealed the company’s lower standards for Chinese consumers of Magnums, one of the most popular ice creams in China. “In the past, I liked to eat Magnum. After seeing this news, I feel speechless. I won’t buy it any more,” posted one outraged Magnum lover on Baidu. “I think this incident reminds us that in future, we should look at ice creams’ ingredients, rather than only focusing on flavours,” another user said on the website. The company uses a combination of milk powder and water in Magnums produced in China while using concentrated milk and water in its European product, Zeng Xiwen, global vice-president of Unilever said on a business news programme on CCTV on Thursday. Zeng said it was difficult to transport fresh milk from Europe to China, and said using domestically produced milk, there would be a “supply problem”, but did not elaborate as to whether this was because of the quality of local milk. “Magnum needs to be produced on a large scale in China. It also needs to be exported on a large scale from China,” Zeng said in the interview. “For instance, the Magnum sold in Singapore is produced in China.” In another interview with Xinhua earlier this month, Zeng said they do not use fresh milk when producing Magnums in China for a range of reasons including the stability of milk supply, quality control and export demands. “The large scale production and export of Magnum means we should select milk powders that are more stable and can support the large scale production,” Zeng said, adding that milk powders they use are imported from New Zealand or Europe. But Song Liang, an economist from the China State Farm Dairy Alliance, a grouping of leading domestic dairy producers, said cost is an “important” factor for Unilever to make the decision, CCTV reported. “To reach the same protein content level [in the final milk product], the cost for using milk powders is 8,000 to 10,000 yuan (US$1,230 to US$1,538) per tonne, much lower than the cost of using concentrated milk,” he said. However, Zeng rejected this claim. “From the cost perspective by considering multiple factors including transportation, using local-produced fresh milk is a better way to lower the cost. In other words, fresh milk does not completely equal high-end things,” Zeng told Xinhua. https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3145831/magnum-ice-creams-china-not-made-fresh-milk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meng.huat Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, The_King said: The company uses a combination of milk powder and water in Magnums produced in China while using concentrated milk and water in its European product, Zeng Xiwen, global vice-president of Unilever said on a business news programme on CCTV on Thursday. .... Zeng said in the interview. “For instance, the Magnum sold in Singapore is produced in China.” for a stick that is less than $3, there are KGK who believe it is made with fresh milk from cows? wahahaha... btw, many of those carton milk on our supermarket shelves are not fresh cow milk... In case you dont know yet... Edited August 20, 2021 by meng.huat 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates469bc Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, The_King said: Ice cream giant Unilever has admitted to using powdered milk in Magnum ice creams in China while using real milk in products sent to other markets such as Europe, after a month of intense online speculation. Xinhua reported sales of Magnums in China have been surging by more than 20 per cent annually for the past few years making the country the ice cream’s biggest market in the world. Unilever has been under fire for the last month after internet users revealed the company’s lower standards for Chinese consumers of Magnums, one of the most popular ice creams in China. “In the past, I liked to eat Magnum. After seeing this news, I feel speechless. I won’t buy it any more,” posted one outraged Magnum lover on Baidu. “I think this incident reminds us that in future, we should look at ice creams’ ingredients, rather than only focusing on flavours,” another user said on the website. The company uses a combination of milk powder and water in Magnums produced in China while using concentrated milk and water in its European product, Zeng Xiwen, global vice-president of Unilever said on a business news programme on CCTV on Thursday. Zeng said it was difficult to transport fresh milk from Europe to China, and said using domestically produced milk, there would be a “supply problem”, but did not elaborate as to whether this was because of the quality of local milk. “Magnum needs to be produced on a large scale in China. It also needs to be exported on a large scale from China,” Zeng said in the interview. “For instance, the Magnum sold in Singapore is produced in China.” In another interview with Xinhua earlier this month, Zeng said they do not use fresh milk when producing Magnums in China for a range of reasons including the stability of milk supply, quality control and export demands. “The large scale production and export of Magnum means we should select milk powders that are more stable and can support the large scale production,” Zeng said, adding that milk powders they use are imported from New Zealand or Europe. But Song Liang, an economist from the China State Farm Dairy Alliance, a grouping of leading domestic dairy producers, said cost is an “important” factor for Unilever to make the decision, CCTV reported. “To reach the same protein content level [in the final milk product], the cost for using milk powders is 8,000 to 10,000 yuan (US$1,230 to US$1,538) per tonne, much lower than the cost of using concentrated milk,” he said. However, Zeng rejected this claim. “From the cost perspective by considering multiple factors including transportation, using local-produced fresh milk is a better way to lower the cost. In other words, fresh milk does not completely equal high-end things,” Zeng told Xinhua. https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/trending-china/article/3145831/magnum-ice-creams-china-not-made-fresh-milk 34 minutes ago, meng.huat said: for a stick that is less than $3, there are KGK who believe it is made with fresh milk from cows? wahahaha... btw, many of those carton milk on our supermarket shelves are not fresh cow milk... In case you dont know yet... actually unilever didnt tell the whole truth. most likely unilever also use coconut oil and palm-based cacao substitute gao gao to make the magnums. as long as dont overly mask the milky chocolate taste, most asian consumers too kumgong and cant tell the difference. dont believe, jiak a sgd5 haagen dazs stick bar and u can tell the difference liao. wahahahahaha Edited August 20, 2021 by socrates469bc 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_King Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 heng i make my own icecream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_King Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, socrates469bc said: actually unilever didnt tell the whole truth. most likely unilever also use coconut oil and palm-based cacao substitute gao gao to make the magnums. as long as dont overly mask the milky chocolate taste, most asian consumers too kumgong and cant tell the difference. dont believe, jiak a sgd5 haagen dazs stick bar and u can tell the difference liao. wahahahahaha after i jiak the choco you recommend. i eat other choco i can tell they use so much plam oil yuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meng.huat Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 11 hours ago, socrates469bc said: most likely unilever also use coconut oil and palm-based cacao substitute gao gao to make the magnums. confirm use palm oil la... if not tiongland buy so much CPO for what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates469bc Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 13 hours ago, The_King said: after i jiak the choco you recommend. i eat other choco i can tell they use so much plam oil yuck sometimes they also use small amount of mango stearin to replicate the high melting point of cacao as well. https://www.confectionerynews.com/Article/2013/12/12/Heat-resistant-chocolate-with-mango-seed-fat nb, limpeh me know all their tricks until can write book liao. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates469bc Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, meng.huat said: confirm use palm oil la... if not tiongland buy so much CPO for what? they buy for......... and for 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_King Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, socrates469bc said: sometimes they also use small amount of mango stearin to replicate the high melting point of cacao as well. https://www.confectionerynews.com/Article/2013/12/12/Heat-resistant-chocolate-with-mango-seed-fat nb, limpeh me know all their tricks until can write book liao. Thanks Please intro me some green tea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meng.huat Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 hours ago, socrates469bc said: they buy for......... PPB Group, controlled by Malaysia’s richest tycoon Robert Kuok, reported that its profit doubled in the first quarter as the Kuala Lumpur-listed conglomerate benefited from robust demand for palm oil and sugar across the region. Net profit surged to 402.2 million ringgit ($97.2 million) in the first quarter from 187.3 million ringgit a year ago, the company said in a filing to Bursa Malaysia late Friday. The results reflect the robust contribution from PPB’s Singapore-listed agribusiness associate company Wilmar International, which reported record quarterly earnings last month following the strong performance of its plantation and sugar milling businesses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaur4man Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) that means Singapore magnum also not made with fresh milk cibai Edited August 21, 2021 by aaur4man 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socrates469bc Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, The_King said: Thanks Please intro me some green tea sell spring water until become billionaire, jin sakti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_King Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, socrates469bc said: sell spring water until become billionaire, jin sakti. confirm fail my requirement any grade of green tea leaf is ok as long as there NOT grown or use any synthetic, chemical fertilizers, pesticides, fungicides, insecticides or herbicides. if using tea bag it must be free of epichlorohydrin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meng.huat Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, aaur4man said: that means Singapore magnum also not made with fresh milk cibai sohai to jiak palm oil ice cream and imagine jin satki. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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