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By pigpigoink · Posted
can try sia, maybe they will stun a bit, but really bow back -
By pigpigoink · Posted
val verde quit football and becum youtuber? -
i ask ai where they get money from. If you focus only on money, jobs, and where the money comes from, the article actually gives very little detail. Family 1 (Edric Sng) Jobs Husband: Pastor and editor of Christian websites. Wife: Homemaker (does not work outside the home). Income The article explicitly says they raise six children on a modest single income. It does not reveal: how much he earns, whether the church provides housing, whether they receive donations or financial help, whether they have savings or investments. How they cope financially The article mentions they reduce spending: no domestic helper, restaurant meals only for special occasions, holidays are mainly road trips to Malaysia, children do household chores, they lowered their material expectations. Family 2 (Debbie Leung & Gerald Ng) Jobs Wife: Marketing manager. Husband: Banking professional. Income The article never says: their salaries, whether they are high-income earners, whether they own multiple properties, or whether they have family wealth. How they cope The only financial-related point is that: the wife can work from home, flexible work arrangements make raising five children while working full-time more manageable. Government money The article also mentions the Large Families Scheme: up to S$16,000 in additional benefits for every third and subsequent Singaporean child born from Feb. 18, 2025. This includes a S$10,000 Child Development Account grant. However, the article does not suggest this is enough to pay for raising five or six children. It presents it as an incentive, not the main source of funding. What the article leaves out If your question is "Where does the money actually come from?", the article doesn't answer it. It never tells readers: monthly household income, annual salary, mortgage or housing costs, school fees, childcare costs, savings, investments, inheritance, or other financial support. Instead, it emphasizes values (religion, family, personal beliefs) much more than finances. From a financial perspective, the biggest gap in the article is that it doesn't explain how these households balance their budgets despite having five or six children.
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SINGAPORE – In an era when many Singaporeans stop at one or two children, a small group of parents are heading in the opposite direction with five or more. Their ranks remain modest but steady, even as the total fertility rate has declined over the years and third-child births have become less common. Amid Singapore’s baby woes, these large families stand out, often drawing curious stares and questions from members of the public. According to the latest data from the Department of Statistics, the share of births of fifth and subsequent children have edged up in the past 20 years. Among babies born in 2025, 2.1 per cent of them are their families’ fifth or later child, up from 1.5 per cent in 2005. In 2015, the figure was 1.4 per cent. In 2025, 614 such babies were born, up from 558 in 2005 and 587 in 2015. While these families remain a rarity, they offer a glimpse into a group making markedly different fertility decisions in a society often defined by careful family planning, concerns over the cost and stresses of having children. Academics told The Sunday Times that couples with many children are often motivated by a combination of religious beliefs, personal values and practical support systems. Jean Yeung, director of social sciences at A*STAR Institute for Human Development and Potential, said religious beliefs and strong family-oriented norms are consistently associated with having larger families. Yeung, who is also a professor in the Department of Paediatrics at the National University of Singapore Yong Loo Yin School of Medicine, added: “They are more likely to believe that children are blessings or gifts, discourage contraception or abortion, and have a stronger emphasis on marriage and family continuity.” Kalpana Vignehsa, a senior research fellow at the Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), said couples usually calculate their finances, the impact on their careers, educational opportunities and other costs and considerations when deciding how many children to have. “Parenthood becomes something that is carefully managed and rationalised,” she said. But practising a religious faith can change that. They may choose to leave their family planning up to God, she said. She added: “Some religious couples may feel that excessive calculation itself is undesirable, or that faith requires openness to outcomes beyond one’s control. “Raising many children may not be understood as a burden alone but as spiritually meaningful, morally worthwhile or deeply tied to identity and purpose. This can make families more willing to absorb costs and hardships that other middle-class couples may find unacceptable.” Academics say practical factors also matter. Support from spouses and extended families, flexible work arrangements, among other factors, may also help them be open to having more children. From wanting one child to having six Growing up, Edric Sng never wanted a child. But when he got married, he thought he would have one – enough to satisfy his wife, who has always loved children. Then he held his first-born son. “Having a kid unlocked a part of my heart that I didn’t realise I had,” said Sng, a pastor in a Christian church and the editor of Christian websites such as Salt&Light. “It’s the vastness of a parent’s love. The overwhelming sense of protectiveness and responsibility that you know you need to embrace, and to live for someone beyond yourself.” Pastor Edric Sng with two of his six children on May 29. When he got married, he thought he would have one – enough to satisfy his wife. ST PHOTO: GAVIN FOO Today, Sng and his homemaker wife, who are both 46, have six children between the ages of two and 16. Sng said his faith shapes his life choices. Having children is a “privilege”, not a burden, he added. “There is no set number of children that we wanted,” he said. “Every kid is a joy and a blessing... It’s not to say that parenting is easy, but there’s a fuel – which is a father’s love – that allows us to overcome any hardships.” Like the Sngs, marketing manager Debbie Leung, 47, and her banking professional husband, Gerald Ng, 49, did not set out with a specific family size in mind. They have five children, who are between five and 18 years old. (From left) Debbie Leung and Gerald Ng’s five children - Luke, Kate, Rose, Jane and Sophie. ST PHOTO: GIN TAY Leung, who cites her close relationship with her two sisters as one reason behind wanting a larger family, said: “Family is the closest people you have, and your siblings will be there for you. So I want my children to have company and support (from their siblings).” Her first three children are girls, followed by a boy. Hoping for a brother for him to play with, they decided to have another child. They had a daughter instead, although the pair are “very close”, she said. Leung said being able to work from home, among other flexible arrangements, makes it possible to raise five children while working full-time. While she worries about each child’s health and education, watching each of them grow and seeing their personalities unfold is one of the joys of having a large family. When three children is considered a big family In 2025, Singapore set another record on the fertility front. The resident total fertility rate, which refers to the average number of babies each woman would have during her reproductive years, fell to a new low of 0.87 in 2025. The Government said addressing this fertility decline would require a “multi-faceted, whole-of-society reset”. In April, the newly formed Marriage and Parenthood Reset Workgroup said it would focus on developing a long-term plan to reshape societal attitudes towards marriage and parenthood, propose policy moves to address key concerns, and mobilise support for families. This followed another scheme in 2025 to spur Singaporeans to have their third child or more. Under the Large Families Scheme, families get up to $16,000 in additional benefits for every third and subsequent Singaporean child born on or after February 18, 2025. They include $10,000 in their Child Development Account First Step Grant, which can be used for pre-school and healthcare expenses. A spokesperson for the Ministry of Social and Family Development said about 5,000 children have received the grant, and other benefits under the scheme, as of March. The scheme reflects how the size of a large family has evolved, along with shrinking family sizes, academics said, and today, having three or more children is seen by the state as a large family. Vignehsa noted that social norms are consolidating around having one or two children. In 2025, third-born children accounted for 11.8 per cent of all births that year, down from 17 per cent in 1995. Vignehsa said the data suggest that parents are increasingly hesitant to have a third child because of the financial, caregiving and career sacrifices involved. She said: “Aspirations towards ‘good parenting’ have intensified to such an extent that larger families can begin to feel incompatible with maintaining acceptable standards of care, attention and opportunity for each child. “There is also a broader societal emphasis on self-development, personal well-being, career progression and lifestyle maintenance. Larger families can therefore appear incompatible with prevailing middle-class aspirations around time, flexibility, privacy and individual fulfilment.” Tan Poh Lin, an IPS senior research fellow, said parents are also having children later in life. They may find it harder to have more children even if they want to as a woman’s fertility declines with age. The median age of first-time mothers rose from 29.2 years in 2005 to 32.1 years in 2025. The figures refer to babies born to at least one parent who is a Singaporean or permanent resident. She also noted that one historical reason for larger families – continuing to have children in the hope of having at least one son to carry on the family name – has weakened. Large families still uncommon The academics point out that the slight rise in the share of babies born as the fifth or subsequent child in their families does not mean large households are becoming more common. In fact, the proportion of resident households with six or more people nearly halved over the past two decades, falling from 11.1 per cent in 2005 to 6.1 per cent in 2025. In 2015, the figure was 9.6 per cent. Household size refers to the number of people living in the same house and who share essential living arrangements. They include grandparents and domestic helpers. Yeung said that shrinking family sizes also means a larger load for adult children caring for their parents and weakened extended family networks. She added that as family sizes shrink, some of the roles played by family, such as childcare and eldercare services, have to be borne by the community instead. She said: “In other words, societies with smaller families need stronger social infrastructure.” Large families in Singapore remain uncommon enough that the Sngs often attract quizzical looks when they go out together. Sng says he can almost see others “mentally counting” the number of children they have. He is often asked: Are you going to have baby No. 7? “I dare not say no. I said I wouldn’t after baby No. 4, but numbers 5 and 6 came along. But we are both 46 years old now, so it’s unlikely,” he said. Life in the eight-member Sng household is never quiet, and it delights him to see his children loving and caring for each other. But raising six children on a modest single income has its trade-offs. For example, restaurant meals are for special occasions. Overseas trips are road trips to Malaysia rather than long, expensive vacations. The children all chip in to do household chores as the family does not have a domestic helper. “We have had to lower our standards and expectations of the material things in life. But some of the trade-offs are not difficult. Like hearing the sound of laughter and more laughter in the house, instead of an Instagram memory of a nice meal,” he said. “One thing we have learnt is contentment, and we also teach our kids about contentment.”
